water shortage in Manila

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  1. guwapito

    guwapito Well-Known Member

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    it’s all over the news and everyone in the east of Manila is experiencing it. How are you guys coping with this crisis.

    any ideas you can share is very much appreciated
     
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    Mmm....water interruption sked for Manila Water customers, posted in their FB page........until further notice daw. August?? :mad:
     
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    per experience they have not followed the schedule :(
     
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    raypin PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Mm...lengthy press conference by Manila. Water. Covers the situation very clearly.

     
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    Agree.

    But I also gauged the schedule from the past 3 days that our water supply starts from 7-11am only. After that malakas pa utot ko sa pressure ng tubig.
     
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    Lol water supposed to be weak at our place but it’s not.
     
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    Mm...from the presser, it is a question of inadequate source of water. Too many people, very limited resources. Kaliwa Dam is a long-term solution (stretching back to the Marcos years) but implementation of the project was delayed for many years and it won’t save us until 2023. Angat Dam, which supplies La Mesa Dam, is the major source of water for Metro Manila and it is no longer an adequate source.
     
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    early this week in the office, there was a long queue in our shower areas. Turns out they were our employees from QC an Pasig areas.

    We haven’t experienced any outages here in Las PInas. Seems we Maynilad fed people from the south are (relatively) lucky. For now I guess.

    Time to bring out the rainsticks!
     
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    Overpopulation in Metro Manila.

    Lack of dams.

    Global warming.

    It's the perfect storm of slow moving catastrophes that were unaddressed by politicians who don't give a dam (pun intended).

    Like the MWSS said, we needed solutions yesterday. Any effort now that the crisis is here is just a drop in the bucket.
     
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    Hmmm... but is this a manufactured crisis? Are we being hoodwinked just so another Chinese project will get public support?



    LOOK: Angat Dam water level normal

    CNN Philippines was able to fly over the mountains of Sierra Madre to check on the situation in the dam in Norzagaray in Bulacan, located over 46 kilometers north of Metro Manila.

    Upon checking, the water level was at 199.94 meters, which authorities said was normal.

    A statement from the National Risk Reduction and Management Council Wednesday, quoted the same number as cited by the National Water Resources Board (NWRB).

    According to the NWRB, Angat's minimum operating level is at 180 meters, meaning at the volume Angat Dam currently holds is still enough to supply both domestic and irrigation demands.

    Water supply will be first cut off for irrigation once it hits the 180-meter critical mark, and only when it reaches 160 meters will supply for domestic uses be limited.

    Dam authorities said water can supply Metro Manila for another 125 days, or until the end of the dry season.

    Angat Dam supplies 96 percent of Metro Manila's needs. It is connected to the La Mesa water reservoir in Quezon City, which is now at the lowest water level in 12 years.

    A conveyor in Angat with a capacity of 1.6 billion liters per day carries water to homes and businesses under eastern Metro Manila's concessionaire, Manila Water. However, the demand from customers have risen to 1.7 billion liters per day.

    The demand spike has caused a water shortage affecting over half-a-million residents in the metropolis.
     
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    Mm...from the presser, yes, there is water at Angat. The problem is lack of infrastructure to supply La Mesa ( which supplies Balara for distribution to households and commercial establishments). The maximum that can be carried (water is gravity fed to La Mesa from Angat) is 4,000 million liters per day; 1,600 to Manila Water and 2,400 to Maynilad. Kulang. Meron shortfall. Carmoma treatment plant was supposed to be operational last year but for technical reasons, it isn’t operational yet. The plant is supposed to pump water from Laguna de Bay to help with the supply constraints.

    The fact remains that there has to be a new source of water for Metro Manila, for long-term water security.
     
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    This came in this morning. By 4 PM, there was no more water flow in Bel-Air. Seems even the advisories are inaccurate.
     
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    government - "kasalanan ng previous administration yan. inupuan lang nila plans to address this..."
    previous government - "3 years na sa pwesto di ba? gusto lang nila ng chinese dam..."

    meanwhile (CTTO's):

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    yan tayo eh... :( it's difficult discussing without getting political, but none of these 'noises' matter now. the people need water, now (this coming from someone who has yet to experience water outage, not even low pressure).
     
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    If this is really all just a farce to further the Chinese agenda here at the expense of the Filipino people.....WTH, man....the admin would really go that far.....wow, just wow.
     
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    I know water demand will outstrip supply if the dam is not completed before then. For the reasons that more people are choosing to live in urban areas and people who were earning less before are now earning more now and will then earn more in the future. PH govt has already banned deep well construction due to land subsidence. All of these will require more supply of surface water than what current capacity allows.

    Does the sudden cut off seem suspect? Yes, it does and for all we know it really was intentional to induce the expedited approval of the Chinese loans.

    I would rather not accept Chinese govt loans to finance any of our infrastructure projects but it does not mean we do not have a critical need for the dam to happen.

    Any human activity has an environmental cost but the question is there a way to minimise it without spending too much more or without having to sacrifice a daily bath?
     
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    Mm...the Kaliwa Dam will cost php18 billion to build. The reenacted 2018 budget is php 3.767 TRILLION. Why do we have to borrow from China or any foreign government? It is not even .50%. If possible, get it from the pork barrel of our honorable Congressmen and Senators.
     
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    An MWSS veteran thinks the shortage is artificial (a board decision) and that the solution is to just open a particular bypass.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157005403260688&id=668960687

    Tameme yung Chief Regulator and plays douchebag na lang. When he said that he did not order the closure of the valve, he also confirms the existence of it.

    The original post is now deleted.
     
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    well, i hope they just cut the crap and just fix it. please :(
     

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