The PLDT FIBR Thread

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  1. raypin

    raypin PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Mm...our internet speeds (in the urbanized areas) have improved quite a bit but we are still lagging behind....badly. This is in New York:

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    No contract. 24/7 support. 500 mbps.....for a little over 2k a month. Meaning....we are paying the same for much less speed (up to 20 times less speed)......Sigh....
     
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    Law of diminishing returns though.

    I can’t tell 500mbps from 50mbps when loading fb/insta or PhilMUG.
     
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    rdy0329 PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Private IP is a no-go for me. I’ve tried converge in one of the condo development in McKinley Hills, can’t maintain 25mbps as advertised during peak hours, so you might watch out for that.
     
  4. raypin

    raypin PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Mm...depends on the size of your internet-using household. A 50 Mbps is good for 1 or 2 users but inadequate for a family of 4 to 6. Factor in that when you and your other family members use VPN (which cuts down speed by up to 50%) to access geo-locked streaming services like HBO Now, Sling TV, Hulu, Amazon Prime Video etc., then 50 Mbps is inadequate. Nowadays, 50 Mbps is a minimum have....
     
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    rdy0329 PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Point taken, We’re only 2 or sometimes 3 who uses the internet. VPN only affects the device’s speed and not the overall household speed. I’ll only feel the pinch when everyone’s streaming.
     
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    It depends on the service you're paying for. My VPN allows me to retain at least 90% of my speed, sometimes even going as high as 95%. Back in the Philippines, my 100 Mbps (PLDT FIBR) connection at home remained at ~94 Mbps consistently it's almost like there's no VPN running at all in the background. Some VPN services even allow customers to purchase a dedicated IP for a fee in the event that some of their public IPs get blacklisted by, say, Netflix. Perfect if money is no object and you just want to access U.S. titles with the least obstacles.

    If the individual is not streaming U.S. specifically: (Or for folks that do not stream at all and just wants their history off ISP's peering eyes)

    If currently residing in the Philippines, experiment with providers running a Hong Kong server through a barrage of free trials as it's likely to be the only server closest to you in some cases. There may be Japan or Singapore servers, but they fall behind Hong Kong as far as retained speed goes by virtue of distance. Philippines VPN servers, on the other hand, are usually virtual locations — a server that is allegedly in the Philippines may actually be in Singapore or New York. You'll just get worse speeds.

    Virtual locations doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing basing off your usage, but personally, spoofing the true location of a server if you're solely relying on them for very important use-cases (e.g., you're an individual sharing information that might result in your assassination by an autocratic regime) outright spells bad news. It raises questions about the VPN service's overall integrity because if you subscribed to them for reasons like (1) a particular server and what you got is essentially fake marketing claim or; (2) you can't afford using a U.S. server for whatever reason you're effectively being put at risk when a purported Philippines server may actually be situated in a country you're not supposed to be using under any circumstances.

    For some people, the U.S. and UK (members of the Five Eyes) are a big no-no even if the provider promises zero logging.

    Whoops! I'm going off tangent here… :LOL:

    As an aside, if you're using only your computer (there's no iOS app yet, but there's already Android) to stream look for a provider that already grants access to their own WireGuard servers. It's faster than OpenVPN even though it's technically in alpha right now. I've been using it since the beginning of this year and it still hasn't failed me.

    If anybody needs a suggestion for WireGuard VPN providers, my vote goes to Mullvad. They have a trial that lasts for 3 hours (you can probably get it extended by asking them) which should be enough to compare performance, and their no-logging policy is practically second to none. The service costs €5 monthly and they offer very swift WireGuard servers alongside OpenVPN in case the former doesn't work out. They offer a myriad of payment options to keep you anonymous, hell, they don't even need your e-mail address or any other identifying info. They operate like a Swiss bank where you get a numbered account. They basically have no information about you. They don't know who their customers even are.

    A sample of performance (PLDT FIBR 100 Mbps)

    No VPN running: 98 Mbps consistent
    OpenVPN with a HK server: fluctuates between 78 to 83 Mbps
    WireGuard with a HK server: 94 Mbps consistent

    A sample of performance (Globe At Home Fiber 100 Mbps)

    No VPN running: 85 Mbps consistent
    OpenVPN with a U.S. server: ~65 Mbps fluctuates
    WireGuard with a U.S. server: ~78 Mbps consistent

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    Not bad I'd say.
     
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  7. raypin

    raypin PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Mmm...I am using Getflix, using HK servers. I lose up to 50% (more or less), giving me 25 Mbps headroom (more or less) to stream 4K content without inconvenience.
     
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    Ah, specialised VPNs meant for streaming. That explains the slow down. I guess if it's convenient, works, and 25 Mbps is already bearable for your needs there's no need to look elsewhere.
     
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    I'd be cautious with WireGuard. They're still technically on Beta. Even the developers left some warning:
    Source: https://www.wireguard.com/#work-in-progress
     
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    I'd be cautious with WireGuard if I were, to cite my previous example, an individual sharing information across that might result in my assassination by an autocratic regime. It's alpha software in that there's no assurance it won't stop working in the midst of anything important or otherwise, therefore should you require constant connection to your VPN, either IPsec or OpenVPN would still be the way to go until WireGuard is subject to more thorough tests and vetting by credible third-parties.

    Other unanticipated problems may very well arise, of course, but to an individual whom can accept a caveat to his tool, it's a hoot. The one issue I've come across is, sometimes, my DNS entries won't revert back to my previous one upon disconnecting WireGuard. It's not a problem considering my VPN's DNS is a lot safer than my ISP's, but it's not expected behaviour.

    Because the Mac side feature-wise is severely lacking, I wrote a fairly basic script that starts WireGuard at login, tells me when WireGuard fails to connect as well as a confirmation that I am, indeed, connected to WireGuard. I only miss the kill-switch feature which is presently available only on Linux. I'm still hoping that Little Snitch would one day detect WireGuard so it can also serve as my kill-switch.

    While using WireGuard, your VPN connection will remain persistent across networks. This means that unless you specifically bring the interface down or restart/shutdown the Mac, you will always be on the VPN. Disconnecting and reconnecting to the same or a different network maintains the connection. Also know that sleep and logout will maintain the interface for when the computer becomes active again. I've never been disconnected once (or at least without manual intervention), but YMMV.

    I trust my VPN provider way more than my ISP in NZ (Five Eyes). Or better yet, maybe run my own OpenVPN or WireGuard servers one day — if anyone else is feeling adventurous the option exists.

    e: added link to Algo VPN. And there needs to be a VPN thread somewhere lol
     
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  11. VicB

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    Hi! Which plan is for the PLDT Fibr 100 Mbps? PLDT's Fibr website mentions only plans 2899 & 3499 for 50 Mbps, no 100 Mbps.
     
  12. Edelheid

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    They had a promo where they boost your plan from 50 to 100 for several months. Not sure if they still have it today.

    EDIT: They still have it, the speed boost lasts six months.

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    jetan PhilMUG Addict Member

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    non issue well see once they're activated.
     
  14. rdy0329

    rdy0329 PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm for Converge. They help utilize excess capacity of Globe and PLDT which would normally take ages to deploy (they lease international bandwidth from both telco which is great for redundancy). At least now, they are also expanding their coverage which means building infra alongside the top telcos. Growing pains are unavoidable.
     
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  15. VicB

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    Thanks for the clarification. PLDT only offers that to new subscribers & not for current. :cry:

    That's why we moved to Globe. Their Fibr Plan 2899 is for 100Mbps. Been using it now for about 3 weeks, so far so good. Avg d/l speed is between 55-75 Mbps.
     
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    Hi Guys, planning to switch ISP since my skybroadband connection is not very good with console gaming. I was planning to switch to Converge, however I've been hearing that because they use CGNat console online gaming is going to be problematic. Then I've heard mix things about PLDT, I've seen someone say they use dynamic public IP which is good for online gaming but then I also see they recently use CGNat. Is this true?

    If so, is it possible to ask the agent when subscribing not to give me CGNat since I am planning to use it for console gaming?
     
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    so i have been trying for a while now to ask PLDT for the modem login information and have been going back and forth with them for months now (just for a modem access, would you imagine?). they finally understood what I want and asked me to sign a waiver:

    https://pldthome.com/docs/default-source/supportdownload/forms_acceptance-of-liability-waiver.pdf

    did anyone went through this route by chance? I know there's a liabilty on the end user if something gets broken...just wondering because this is a first to me :)
     
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    After 2 months of waiting for activation of my pldt fiber, I decided to apply for converge 25mbps plan. It just took 10 days before they installed fiber and activated it right away. I'm getting an average speed of 21-24 mbps so far for the past one week.

    I then called pldt to cancel my dsl and told them take out the fiber modem and wires they installed. I paid my pending bill and then the installer came the next day and told me they are going to activate my fiber. After 2 months. I just told them I had it cancelled already, they checked and all they did was just cut the fiber line. . They left All the modems and wires even the dsl line at home and told me they are not allowed to get it.
     
  19. oj88

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    I'm quite surprised that they have that provision.

    Anyway, I consider these telco-provided modems (CPE, in telco-speak) to be leased equipment. As such, I don't bother modifying them beyond whatever access they provided me. For the one thing I needed admin access, I asked them to do it. For example, when my Fibr was installed, I asked them to set it up in bridge mode. All I did next was to disable the WiFi on the Fibr box and relegate it purely as a modem (or more precisely, as a media converter - fiber to copper).

    I run my own security appliance, network switch, as well as wireless access points so I have full control of my network.
     
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