Number Portability Act

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  1. john.roque

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    Looks like we’ll finally be able to keep our phone numbers for ourselves.

    Based from the IRR of NTC:

    1. Number porting will be a physical process— in a sense written forms, submissions of IDs and a clearance from original network from any financial obligations will be needed.
    2. No number porting within 60 days of activation.
    3. Porting process should only take 48 hours max after submission of documents.
    4. Change from prepaid to postpaid service should only take 24 hours.
    5. SMS one time PINs are required.
    6. Completely free of charge and no more interconnect fees.

    I find this is great for us consumers, especially those who are stuck with a network because changing their number would be a nightmare. I myself I’m interested in switching to Smart because they just upped Globe’s plan with their new Signature plans.

    Notable difference on the porting process VS the one from US is that it seems very secure from “phone number thieves”, as it requires both physical and on-device verification. While it seems to be a big red tape thing, phone number theft in the US is a real thing because porting there is purely remote and only requires a PIN (which is usually the last 4 of their SSN). This makes SMS a secure method for two-factor authentication over using it in the US.

    I’m really glad our lawmakers took an initiative on this. Just in time for iPhone XI!
     
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    Is the IRR out? I cannot find any news article on this.
     
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    There are still privacy concerns that need to be threshed out. You know like people who want to remain anonymous and also whistleblowers who are likely to be unmasked because of the new law.
     
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    Thank you for this. I myself was looking for the IRR. Sent an email to NTC but didn't get any response.

    Shouldn't they already be finished by now? The law itself mandates that the IRR be released within 3 months of effectivity.
    That would be June 6, as the law took effect on March 6, 15 days after publication on the Official Gazette last Feb 19.
     
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    Downgrading to a landline requires a renewal of a 24 month lock in... for a landline.

    This explains it then.

    I was baffled why Globe refused to port a Globe prepaid # to a Globe postpaid account. Globe used to have a postpaid plan that migrates prepaid # to postpaid. They stopped it for this law.

    I do not think this covers landline #.

    I say this as NCR landline # will have an extra digit specific to a telco. So if your number is 911-1111 with Globe then your number becomes 7911-1111 while the PLDT counterpart becomes 8911-1111.

    Doing this is sobrang hassle. Instead they should have made a new area code specific to new numbers.

    Kawawa the people who depend on unli call and unli text promos. How can they tell that their kausap is on the same network as they are?
     
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    Should existing postpaid account be terminated and remaining balance settled first before processing of activation by the new service provider? If yes, would that mean I'd get no mobile services during transition?
     
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    oops didn't notice this, sorry

    yep all outstanding balance should be settled. the transition issue should be covered by the IRR probably
     
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    TBH the fines should be a percent of their gross corporate income that they submit to the BIR.

    10 years from today inflation will remove any teeth of the law and the forever weakening peso eats into it further.

    But thanks for this. Will ask the telcos on pending requests.

    I hope this applies to landlines.

    For those who may not know these are the landline prices of Globe & PLDT.

    [​IMG]

    There are install costs associated but I didnt bother to look for it.

    But in a household where everyone has a mobile # why get a landline? If no one is at home who will answer the calls?

    Be aware that you can upgrade your current landline to Fiber while retaining the landline #.
     
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    Btw, telco still have until 6 months after release of IRR to implement it
     
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    Nice Christmas present for me then. :)

    I am so excited to cut my landline bills in half!
     
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    Unfortunately this applies to mobile numbers only.
     
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    Only en da Pilepens
     
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    I just noticed there’s a thread about MNP na pala! My bad.

    Anyway, looks like PLDT thinks the removal of the inter-connect fee is unconstitutional. Curious how will that go and see their arguments
     
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    A new major issue that will start because of this law is how is how unlimited calls & text to same network will work.

    Right now if you have a add-on or pack for unlimited Globe/TM calls then you are absolutely certain that you will call any number starting with 0917.

    Now, the problem arise if the number you are reaching has been ported to Smart. You will be charged for the call even if the area code is 0917.

    Hello surprise charges.

    Not that much of an issue for unlimited text to all networks.
     
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    This is addressed in the §9 of RA 11202 and §11.2 of NTC MC 03-06-2019. Mobile operators are now prohibited from charging other networks interconnection fees. I think, in theory, this would be passed along to the consumers with the introduction of unlimited texts and calls to all networks at practically the same rates as intra-network unlimited promos.
     
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    I want to see this done in practice.
     

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