Metro Manila Traffic

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  1. hitme64

    hitme64 PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Wow 820 trucks now converting Roxas Boulevard into the world’s “mobile” parking lot. Did we just break a Guiness world record?

    The traffic there is so dense even a fly couldn’t pass through. Sheesh!
     
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    Since the implementation of the provincial bus ban a few days ago (wed Aug 7), traffic during peak hours has worsened significantly. Definitely plus more than an hour conservatively compared to the usual travel time. What gives? Was expecting a sort of improvement but seems otherwise. Read somewhere that Sen Grace Poe is demanding an explanation.
     
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    City buses were required to follow the yellow lane regardless of what type of route they're plying which meant congestion at intersections of major roads crossing EDSA. This meant cars trying to exit EDSA have to wait for the intersection to free up to make their turn. Shaw underpass/Cubao underpass etc were clogged up with buses even if they don't stop there.

    During the previous admin's yellow-lane implementation, they allowed buses on flyovers if their route (A, B or C) doesn't require them to stop below/near an overpass.
     
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    The brilliance of traffic’s best minds in conjuring that world record of spectacular traffic congestion is so much commendable and awe-inspiring it brings many to tears.

    Yep, that’s all we can do right now.
     
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    Just relegating city buses to the yellow lanes will not ease traffic. What should be done is to control the flow of buses.

    Treat buses like trains. One bus at a time leaves one end of EDSA every 5 minutes during peak hours (6-10 AM & 4-8 PM) & maybe every 10 minutes at non-peak hours. Buses can only stop at bus stops & can only wait for 2 minutes. Whether full or not, it leaves after 2 minutes. This will also require commuter discipline. Commuters have to line up & wait their turn. It's possible that a commuter may have to wait for the next bus if the current bus is full.

    If this is implemented, the 2 yellow lanes will not even be needed. Just one lane will do! This is how bus systems in other countries work. Of course, a lot of the bus systems in these countries are run by national or local governments.

    The bus firms will surely complain. It will show that we have too many buses plying the EDSA route. The boundary system will also have to be done away with & put the bus drivers/conductors on a fixed monthly salary. It will require a lot of political will to implement this (if ever).
     
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    I have been taking pictures of EDSA and Commonwealth Avenue during the rush hour and looking at those photos, those roads are filled with private cars (o´・_・)っ

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    ^And to think Commonwealth Avenue was built for four-lane private cars and two-lane PUVs. It looks like that two-lane just disappeared there.
     
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    If there was a predictable & steady flow of buses, less people would use private transpo.
     
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    Mm...difficult if not impossible to implement a time-based or scheduled dispatch of buses when you are dealing with dozens of independent bus companies fielding bus units from dozens of terminals outside or within Metro Manila. It a logistical nightmare. Absent a monopoly, the nearest equivalent is to encourage mergers of dozens of bus companies......to, say, just two bus companies....then assign a territory exclusive to each. That will take care of the free-for-all driving style of bus drivers that is a major cause of the chaotic traffic situation. And with only two bus companies to deal with, buses can be rationally dispatched. And, yes, prohibit the boundary system for buses and opt for regular salaries (an unimplemented policy).

    This may work:

    https://www.esquiremag.ph/wheels/drive/edsa-traffic-congestion-solution-idea-a00289-20190808-lfrm?utm_source=Facebook-Entrepreneur&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20190808-fbnp-money/wheels/drive/edsa-traffic-congestion-solution-idea-a00289-20190808-lfrm-fbfirst

    Brilliant idea. I hope someone at the MMDA will consider this.
     
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    It’s not just the bus system that’s wrong but the drivers on it. There’s no comprehensive training for public transport operators, no understanding of traffic management, and no detailed background checks made on drivers employed by bus companies. As long as one knows how to drive, even a two-wheel kind, they are eligible for employment by bus companies.

    Sixty percent of bus drivers apprehended last year are either new drivers, with police records, habitual drug offenders, or delinquent traffic violators.
     
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    39 pages... i'm just shaking my head.

    Look... there's plenty of great ideas here. But there's just some things where you just have to wait for things to happen. Sometimes it just takes for a great idea to gain traction at the right time. Maybe not today. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe in a year. Or 10 years. But you can't force it.

    I'm not being pessimistic. Just being realistic.
     
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    Anybody who traversed Commonwealth Avenue today will be impressed with the openness of the road and the lack of buses making runs...took us just 8 minutes from Cubao to Sandiganbayan without any hiccups...Eight minutes!

    And to think MMDA says it can do that 5-minute Cubao to Makati run in 3 months time. What a dream!
     
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    Being stuck for 3 fricking hours in traffic last Friday night (for the third or fourth time last week), I came to an epiphany.

    We Filipinos would make fantastic astronauts.

    1. Everyday, we are trained to endure confinement in small containers of sheet metal and glass.
    2. We can hold our pee for extended periods of time.
    3. We can forgo food for many, many hours.
    4. Our legs and bones have been conditioned to endure not standing or stretching for countless hours every week.
    5. We are impervious to claustrophobia.
    6. We excel in breathing in recycled air, and by now, we must have a high degree of immunity to monoxide and other toxins.
    7. We are incredibly adept in piloting small crafts through the tiniest and narrowest openings.
    8. We are used to being away in traffic while our children grow up and go on with their lives separate from us.
    9. We have physically disproved the space-time continuum. How can a space of 20 kilometers take 3 hours, when our crafts are travelling at an average speed of 2 kilometers per hour? Ok maybe some of that monoxide has gotten to me, but still.
    10. Traffic is infinity and beyond, space ranger.
     
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    I'm getting this picture in my head of what the Metro Manila traffic really looks like. I think I've been through 5 drivers this year. Each has their own problems with driving. Now, they're all driving around Metro Manila, loose in their bad habits. The latest driver I have has his own hilarious ways and I can forgive him for some of his quirks. He sings Arriana Grande songs while driving, comments on bad drivers even though he is one, dances in his seat when he like the music. That, is the entertaining part and that's why he still has a job. The annoying ones are, driving on two lanes, driving on the passing lane at 60kph, no courtesy to pedestrians and other motorists, and the worst one is when he farted inside the car thinking I'm asleep and I won't notice! I was on my way to Elbert's Pizzeria and lost my appetite.
     
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    ^Be lucky he’s one bad driver. Now multiply that single driver a hundred thousand times over plus the square root of commuters, traffic violators and snow cones combined raised to the 10th degree and you get what? It doesn’t matter you know because it’s just so crazy figuring out the traffic you actually wish you never thought of anything else when you left home.
     
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    watching the livestream of the Senate hearing earlier today on the banning of provincial buses and the implementation of yellow lanes for city buses. a mix of finger pointing and grandstanding. after an hour or so decided to just turned it off and concluded that man, we are indeed f*cked and no hope in sight.

    it is clear that our policy makers or those who have the capability to do something are prioritizing their bottomline than the welfare of the public.
     
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    Mm...I m trying to be optimistic....still believing in the traffic easing power of the new Skyway (due 2020 or so). We’ll see what 17 kilometers of new elevated 6-lane toll road will do to Edsa and C5 traffic. It is almost as long as Edsa itself.
     
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    No need for emergency powers, says the ever generous Senator Grace Poe. Just do what you do everyday. Stay in traffic. Curse to the heavens if you want. Walk if you can’t wait. Pay your taxes. Don’t bother me. I have my four car convoy with motorcycle escorts to guide me in traffic anywhere and everywhere I want to, so you lower homo sapiens can just eat my dust. Maraming salamat po sa boto niyo ibalik ako sa Senado.
     
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