I was waiting for an SE refresh hoping to get a new phone that's just as capable but not as big. In the meantime, I got myself a refurb 2016 SE. I like it except that the battery doesn't last that long perhaps because it's not really brand new. So I was hoping Apple would release a new version soon. They did but then it's bigger than what I wanted. I really just want dumb smart phone... if that makes sense. At least now we know the cycle for SE phones is every 3-4 years. I hope the next SE would be the same screen size but smaller overall size without the bezels and buttons.