Apple, pls switch to AMD's Ryzen

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  1. King

    King PhilMUG Addict Member

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    Intel dropped the plan to migrate to PCIe 4.0 for 2020 and moved it to 2021, maybe.

    Their 10th gen chips will not be 7nm until 2021, maybe.

    The 2 fastest Single-Core Geekbench 5 CPU Results are not Intel chips. Multicore does not bode well for them either.

    So maybe it's time for Apple to make a Switch to Ryzen?

    Take the 2019 iMac 27" Core i9-9900K.
    • 14nm
    • 8 cores/16 threads
    • Base Frequency of 3.6GHz & turbo of 5GHz.
    • TDP is 95W
    • PCIe 3.0
    • ~$460
    Consider what's AMD has to offer and how relatively easier it is to move to AMD than to their own chips. Nearly no change of code base with instant speed boost.

    https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-blames-intel-for-poor-mac-sales-so-why-doesnt-it-just-buy-amd

    https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/why-apple-should-ditch-intel-for-amd/

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/time-for-apple-to-dump-intel/

    https://www.macobserver.com/columns-opinions/editorial/why-the-2019-imac-was-late/

     
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    Just like to add that intel's 14nm, is actually equivalent to a 10nm AMD. The intel process is different from AMD. So, in 2021 when intel makes the 7nm, it will be on par with AMD's 5nm. Anyway, there could be a reason why Apple hasn't switched to AMD. Maybe a contract with intel that's too costly to break? Apple is known for not jumping in to any latest and greatest tech right away, even if it's available. They seem to take their time and evaluate things. Which IMO, the right approach. Or maybe they do have something in the works and we just don't know it yet.
     
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    Mmm...maybe Apple should design and fabricate its own chip for the MacBooks, similar to the Bionics SOCs that Apple uses for its iPhones....and not depend on Intel. Apple controls its destiny is a better long-term move.
     
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    It’s been quite clear with how the tech community sees the A-series chips may become the future SoCs of everything Apple. The speed at which the leading chip manufacturers (Intel and AMD) churn up and build new tech is too slow for Apple’s roadmap.
     
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    As much as I would want Apple to transition to iPhone chips I would like to keep disruptions to a minimum.
     
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    There actually might be one coming...


    Rumor of course

    According to code snippets found in macOS Catalina 10.15.4 beta, a bunch of AMD APUs were spotted, teasing that Apple could be using AMD technology inside of a future Mac. These APUs could be perfect for low/mid-range MacBook and MacBook Air laptops, but it could scale as high as Ryzen and Navi-powered gaming Macs, too.
     
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    All pundits are pointing out that Apple will be apply ARM to the low end Macbooks while the higher end like the iMac Pros and Mac Pros will continue to use x86 chips. If true, I wonder how will Apple consolidate the two lines as ARM becomes powerful enough to handle high end work loads.

    On the other hand I prefer they simply move to AMD and use an ARM co-processor instead. We'll see.
     
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