Any 1-Step DVD ripping and compression program available for Mac?

Discussion in 'OS X and OS X Apps' started by alfiesy, Aug 25, 2004.

  1. alfiesy

    alfiesy Active Member

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    I back-up my original dvd collection for archival purposes into single layer DVD-R's (4.4GB) using a two step process involving MacTheRipper (remove RCE and Macrovision) and DVD2OneX (compress video and audio) before burning using Toast Titanium 6.

    Any Philmuggers who know a single step process that allows me to do the same?

    On the same note, am looking for high quality 2X DVD-R media in bulk that won't break the bank.

    Appreciate any heads up on the two queries.
     
  2. extremyks

    extremyks Guest

    Haven't seen any one step program yet, remember it's natural to have two or more process in most video ripping.

    Someone from Philmug sells a printable Php 80.00 per 100pcs DVD-R's.
     
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    No. Not yet, AFAIK. We should be so lucky.

    I don't think something like you describe would be appreciated among the generally upstanding Mac communities (some members of the present forum excluded - hehe), as it would violate any number of copyright laws, so don't expect something to emerge soon, or if it did, it would be an underground sort of thing.

    I remember a similar PC-only DVD ripper aaplication (you sometime PC users know which one I mean) that was brazen enough to go aboveground and sell it publicly, and the parties concerned that were directly affected were on it like flies to ****. And the courts just recently lowered the boom on that software definitely. So there.

    Never hurts to look around though. For archival uses only, of course. :dry:

    [Edited on 8-25-2004 by Adel]
     
  4. alfiesy

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    Dual layer DVD-burners are already available in the market. Was told I could have my iMac's inernal DVD-burner replaced by a dual layer DVD-burner. Are DUAL LAYER DVD-R media available locallly as well? That would eliminate the need for DVD2OneX. How much would that cost?

    Which Philmugger sells printable DVD-R discs? Are they 2X media? I noticed that burning a 4X media or a 1-4X media on my Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-104 will result to a speed equivalent to burning a 1X media.
     
  5. Henjie

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    No such thing as a dual-layer DVD-R media yet. The only DL media available are of the DVD+R variety. Same thing on the hardware side. DL-capable burners are actually DVD+R DL-capable only (although most can burn to both DVD-R and DVD+R SL blanks).

    Fastest DVD+R DL media available are 2.4x-rated. Around P750 each for Mitsubishi/Verbatim DL blanks and P600 each for Ritek/RiData blanks. They're not available locally.

    I was able to burn one (Verbatim 2.4x DVD+R DL) using Toast Titanium 6.0.7. Took me more than 30 minutes to burn my backup of Heat (6.65GB). A full disc (around 7.9GB) will take around 45 minutes or so. The backup played okay on my el-cheapo Skyworth DVD player as well as my Lite-On DVD-ROM drive (using both VLC and Apple DVD Player).

    Frankly, I don't think DL burning is worth the extra cost as of the moment. Burning speed is too slow (4x DL drives are available but 4x DL media aren't) and the media are too darn expensive. You can buy good-quality SL blanks that will burn great at 8x for less than P50. And apps like DVD2OneX are getting so good at compressing DVDs that you get barely noticeable quality degradation especially with widescreen movies (full-screen = more video data = greater compression = greater degradation).

    IMHO, DL burning will only be practical once the media cost falls to around P200 or so each (for excellent-quality media) and the writing speeds go up (4x and above). There's also the issue of media availability.

    DVD backups using 8x single-layer DVD blanks:
    Cost of media: P50-P120 each
    Time to rip DVDs: 8 to 18 minutes
    Time to compress DVDs: 0 to 25 minutes
    Burning time at 8x: max 10 minutes
    Total time: 18 to 53 minutes

    DVD backups using 2.4x dual-layer DVD blanks:
    Cost of media: P600 to P750 each
    Time to rip DVDs: 8 to 18 minutes
    Time to compress DVDs: 0
    Burning time at 2.4x: 25 to 45 minutes
    Total time: 33 to 63 minutes

    Basically, you're not gonna save time (and definitely not money) by using DL blanks. The only advantage is that you're burning an exact copy of a DVD with no compression at all. But considering the price of DL blanks, you can probably buy another original copy of the DVD for just a few pesos more. ;-)


    ~Henjie
     
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    Check this out.
    http://www.roxio.com/en/products/popcorn/index.jhtml

    Popcorn™ helps you easily make high quality copies of your DVD movies. Powerful compression technology gives you the fexibility to copy even the largest movies to a single DVD disc.

    From the creators of Toast®, the fastest and most reliable CD & DVD burning software for the Mac

    Versatile Copier
    Copy non-encrypted* DVD-Video discs, disc image files, and valid VIDEO_TS folders from hard disk. Compatible with DVD-Video content from popular ripping utilities.†

    Toast Burning Technology
    For over 10 years, Toast has been the #1 selling CD and DVD recording software for the Mac OS. Now the best burning technology for the Mac is available in Popcorn.

    Powerful Video Compression
    Compress an entire 9 GB dual-layer DVD-Video to a standard 4.7 GB DVD disc, and maintain high video quality and full audio fidelity.

    Informative Copy Summary
    Clearly see the video, audio formats and languages to be copied.

    Flexible Extraction
    Copy an entire disc or extract just the main movie, audio and language.

    Full DVD Support
    Supports multi-channel audio, such as Dolby Digital 5.1, multi-language content, NTSC and PAL video, and widescreen or pan/scan aspect ratios.


    Disc Labeler
    Personalize your finished DVD with a beautiful label and jewel case cover.

    [Edited on 11-23-2004 by peter_ob]
     
  7. alfiesy

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    Key word there - non encrypted. Most if not all commercially released DVD's in the market (Greenhills dvd excepted) have region coding enhancement and Macrovision encription. Pretty much limits the program's usefulness.
     
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    I reallized that (re encryption) but thought that this app is worth checking. At least (i think) it would minimize your step by 1 since you'll compress and burn from within Popcorn. :)
     

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