2020 iMac

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    New iMac With 'iPad Pro Design Language' and Thin Bezels Reportedly Coming at WWDC
    Tuesday June 9, 2020 7:02 am PDT by Eric Slivka
    WWDC is shaping up to see some significant Mac news, starting with word earlier today that Apple will be beginning its shift to its own Arm-based processors, and now leaker Sonny Dickson is claiming that Apple will be introducing a redesigned iMac at the event.

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    MacRumors mockup of iPad Pro-style ‌iMac‌

    According to Dickson, the new ‌iMac‌ will have "iPad Pro design language" and thinner bezels similar to those seen on Apple's Pro Display XDR that accompanied the new Mac Pro last year. The ‌iMac‌ will unsurprisingly feature the custom T2 chip that has made way across the rest of the Mac lineup to integrate several security and controller functions.

    New ‌iMac‌ incoming at WWDC. ‌iPad Pro‌ design language, with Pro Display like bezels. T2 chip, AMD Navi GPU, and no more fusion drive — Sonny Dickson (@SonnyDickson) June 9, 2020


    Dickson also says the revamped ‌iMac‌ will include graphics processors from AMD's Navi family introduced last year, and will go all-flash on the storage front with the discontinuation of the hybrid Fusion Drive system that has paired a smaller SSD with a larger traditional hard drive to balance speed and capacity.

    Apple's ‌iMac‌ hasn't been updated in over a year, so it's certainly due for an update. Reliable leaker CoinX claimed in March that an ‌iMac‌ update was coming "soon," but hasn't shared any additional information on it since then.

    Meanwhile, Intel announced new "Comet Lake" processors in late April that would be appropriate for the ‌iMac‌, although we haven't heard specifically which processors Apple plans to include in the updated ‌iMac‌.

    Finally, an April rumor claimed that Apple is planning to introduce a lower-priced 23-inch iMac in the second half of this year, which has led to some confusion around timing for any ‌iMac‌ release. It remains to be seen if this 23-inch model is arriving at WWDC, and if so, what overall changes we may see to the size options considering the ‌iMac‌ is currently offered in 27-inch and 21.5-inch sizes.
     
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    Shipping Estimates for 27-Inch iMac Continue to Slip, Now Into September
    Monday July 6, 2020 6:55 am PDT by Eric Slivka
    Amid rumors and hints of a forthcoming update for the iMac, supplies of Apple's current 27-inch ‌iMac‌ continue to dwindle with mid- and high-end stock configurations now seeing shipping estimates pushed back into September.

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    The 27-inch ‌iMac‌ has seen tight supplies and extended shipping estimates for months now, but the situation has been gradually worsening to the point where new buyers can now expect to wait nearly two months to receive their machines.

    Rumors of an imminent ‌iMac‌ update date back to March when reliable leaker CoinX indicated that one was coming "soon." A few weeks later, word of a new 23-inch iMac coming in the second half of the year surfaced, while Bloomberg's Mark Gurman noted that a "substantial" iMac refresh potentially including a redesign would be coming later in the year.

    As WWDC approached, occasional leaker Sonny Dickson claimed that a redesigned iMac with "iPad Pro design language" would be arriving at the conference, but it failed to materialize, leaving considerable uncertainty about when we should expect an update to arrive.
     
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    27-inch iMac gets a major update




    The ultimate desktop now features much faster performance, SSDs across the line, an even more stunning Retina 5K display, and higher quality camera, speakers, and mics

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    The new 27-inch iMac is the most powerful and capable iMac ever.
    Cupertino, California — Apple today announced a major update to its 27-inch iMac. By far the most powerful and capable iMac ever, it features faster Intel processors up to 10 cores, double the memory capacity, next-generation AMD graphics, superfast SSDs across the line with four times the storage capacity, a new nano-texture glass option for an even more stunning Retina 5K display, a 1080p FaceTime HD camera, higher fidelity speakers, and studio-quality mics. For the consumer using their iMac all day, every day, to the aspiring creative looking for inspiration, to the serious pro pushing the limits of their creativity, the new 27-inch iMac delivers the ultimate desktop experience that is now better in every way.
    “Now more than ever, our customers are relying on the Mac. And many of them need the most powerful and capable iMac we’ve ever made,” said Tom Boger, Apple’s senior director of Mac and iPad Product Marketing. “With blazing performance, double the memory, SSDs across the line with quadruple the storage, an even more stunning Retina 5K display, a better camera, higher fidelity speakers, and studio-quality mics, the 27-inch iMac is loaded with new features at the same price. It’s the ultimate desktop, to work, create, and communicate.”
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    The 27-inch iMac brings the ultimate desktop experience to everyone, from families to aspiring creatives to the serious pro.
    Up to 10-Core Processors and More Memory Capacity
    Whether composing a new song with hundreds of tracks, compiling thousands of lines of code, or processing large photos with machine learning, the 27-inch iMac, with the latest 6- and 8-core 10th-generation Intel processors, has pro-level performance for a wide range of needs. For pros who need to push iMac even further, the 27-inch iMac has a 10-core processor option for the first time, with Turbo Boost speeds reaching 5.0GHz for up to 65 percent faster CPU performance. And when working with memory-intensive applications, iMac features double the memory capacity for up to 128GB.
    When compared to the previous-generation 8-core 27-inch iMac, the new iMac delivers:1
    • Up to 65 percent more plug-ins in Logic Pro X.
    • Up to 40 percent faster 8K ProRes transcode in Final Cut Pro X.
    • Up to 35 percent faster rendering with Arnold in Autodesk Maya.
    • Up to 25 percent faster build time in Xcode.
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    Now featuring faster processors up to 10 cores, the 27-inch iMac provides pro-level performance across a wide range of needs.
    Next-Generation AMD Graphics
    For GPU-based rendering, editing multiple streams of 4K video, or playing a graphics-intensive game, the 27-inch iMac has more powerful next-generation AMD graphics. iMac delivers up to 55 percent faster graphics performance from its Radeon Pro 5000 series graphics, featuring AMD’s latest RDNA architecture with faster, more power-efficient compute units. And for customers using pro apps that can take advantage of large amounts of video memory for even greater performance, iMac features a graphics option with 16GB of memory for the first time — providing double the video memory capacity of the previous-generation 27-inch iMac.
    When compared to the previous-generation 27-inch iMac with Radeon Pro Vega 48 graphics, the new iMac delivers:1
    • Up to 55 percent faster rendering in Maxon Cinema 4D ProRender.
    • Up to 50 percent faster demo fly-through in Unity Editor.
    • Up to 45 percent faster performance in “Total War: Three Kingdoms.”
    • Up to 30 percent faster timeline rendering in Final Cut Pro X.
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    With more powerful next-generation graphics, the 27-inch iMac delivers up to 55 percent faster graphics performance.
    SSDs and Apple T2 Security Chip Across the Line
    The 27-inch iMac now comes standard with SSDs across the line, delivering blazing-fast performance up to 3.4GB/s for launching applications and opening large files. For users who need massive amounts of storage, iMac also features an 8TB SSD option for the first time — four times the SSD capacity of the previous-generation 27-inch iMac.
    iMac also includes the Apple T2 Security Chip, Apple’s own custom-designed, second-generation silicon. The storage controller in the T2 Security Chip provides on-the-fly data encryption for everything stored on the SSD, so files and data are safe and secure. And the T2 chip also checks that software loaded during the boot process has not been tampered with, giving the 27-inch iMac, and any Mac with the T2 chip, the most secure storage and boot process of any computer.
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    The 27-inch iMac now includes superfast SSDs across the line with four times the storage capacity.
    Retina 5K Display Now with True Tone and Nano-Texture Option
    With 14.7 million pixels, 1 billion colors, 500 nits of brightness, and support for P3 wide color, the Retina display on iMac delivers an immersive front-of-screen viewing experience. All those pixels result in text that looks like a printed page, sharper photos with more detail, and the ability to edit 4K video at full resolution. And now the stunning Retina 5K display on the 27-inch iMac features True Tone technology, which automatically adjusts the color temperature of the display to match a user’s ambient lighting.
    The new iMac offers a nano-texture glass option — first introduced on Pro Display XDR — for even better viewing under various lighting conditions, such as a bright room or indirect sunlight. Unlike typical matte finishes that have a coating added to the surface to scatter light, this industry-leading option is produced through an innovative process that etches the glass itself at the nanometer level. The result is extremely low reflectivity and less glare while maintaining stellar image quality and contrast, and a Retina 5K display that is more gorgeous than ever.
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    A nano-texture glass option brings an innovative matte finish to the iMac Retina 5K display for extremely low reflectivity while maintaining stellar image quality.
    Improved Camera, Higher Fidelity Speakers, and Studio-Quality Mics
    For customers using their iMac more than ever to connect with friends, family, and colleagues, the FaceTime HD camera now features 1080p resolution, while the Image Signal Processor in the T2 Security Chip brings tone mapping, exposure control, and face detection for a much higher quality camera experience. To complement the improved camera, the T2 Security Chip also works with the speakers to enable variable EQ for better balance, higher fidelity, and deeper bass. In addition, a new studio-quality microphone array enables users to capture high-quality audio for improved FaceTime calls, podcast recordings, Voice Memos, and more, right on their iMac.
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    The 27-inch iMac now has a 1080p FaceTime HD camera for a higher quality experience when connecting with friends, family, and colleagues.
    Updates to 21.5-Inch iMac and iMac Pro
    Apple today also announced that its 21.5-inch iMac will come standard with SSDs across the line for the first time. Customers can also choose to configure their 21.5-inch iMac with a Fusion Drive.
    iMac Pro now comes standard with a 10-core Intel Xeon processor. Designed for pro users who require workstation-class performance, iMac Pro features Xeon processors up to 18 cores, graphics performance up to 22 teraflops, up to 256GB quad-channel ECC memory, and a brilliant 27-inch Retina 5K display.
    macOS Big Sur Coming This Fall
    This fall, iMac can be updated at no cost with macOS Big Sur, the latest version of the world’s most advanced desktop operating system. macOS Big Sur introduces a beautiful redesign that is entirely new yet instantly familiar, along with powerful enhancements to key apps. Safari is packed with new features, including a customizable start page, more powerful tabs, built-in translation, and a new Privacy Report. The updated Messages app lets users send more personal and expressive messages, and easily keep track of and interact within group messages. Maps also offers an all-new experience with immersive features for exploring and navigating the world.
    Pricing and Availability
    Starting at $1,799 (US), the new 27-inch iMac is available to order today on apple.com and in the Apple Store app. It will begin arriving to customers and will be in select Apple Store locations and Apple Authorized Resellers starting this week. Starting at $1,099 (US) and $4,999 (US), respectively, the updated models of the 21.5-inch iMac and iMac Pro will be available to order today on apple.com and in the Apple Store app, and will be in select Apple Store locations and Apple Authorized Resellers beginning next week. Additional technical specifications, configure-to-order options, and accessories are available online at apple.com/mac.
     
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    Buying advice that is applicable to any Mac, iPhone or iPad from someone buying Apple products since year 2000.

    If you need an iMac today then buy the 2020 model. It should be useful until the year 2028 when Apple is expected to mark it as "obsolete" and beyond economical repair.

    If you want and not need an upgrade then wait for the 2022 or better yet the 2024 model with Apple silicon.

    Screen size: 21.5-inch vs 27-inch.

    Other than the larger physical screen you cannot upgrade the RAM easily of the 21.5" model after buying it. If you intend to upgrade RAM yourself then get the 27" model. All 27" models are 5K resolution while the $1,099 21.5" model is 1080p only and not 4K. More expensive 21.5" model is 4K

    For over 80% of use case the $1,099 base model 21.5-inch iMac Core i5 or the $1,799 base model 27" iMac Core i5 will do.

    For less than 20% of use case then upgrade to a Core i7 or Core i9 model with GPUs that have 8GB or 16GB RAM.

    For less than 1% of use case the refreshed iMac Pro may be suitable for your needs.

    Intel Chips: 7th vs 8th vs 9th vs 10th generation chips

    To be honest it really does not matter unless power consumption of both the iMac and air-con matters to you. What you will buy would largely be dependent on budget so I would not "geek out" on the difference that much.

    For my use case I'd get the $1,799 base model 27" iMac then just add an external 2-8TB SATA SSD and 2x16GB RAM.

    256GB SSD & 8GB is really anemic at that price point. Ideally it should be 512GB SSD & 16GB RAM.

    I went with a 2012 iMac Core i7 build-to-order (BTO). Took Apple about 4 months to complete. If I went with the standard model I would have waited 1 month only. I had the option to upgrade in 2014 but was too slow to accept.

    The past's the past so learn from my mistakes. :)

    I'm holding over until year 2024. Hopefully they'll come out with a larger screen model that you can still upgrade RAM. I'm thinking 64GB RAM & 8TB SSD for less than $2,500.
     
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    Great job for the scoop Yoh! Everything is improved! 10 core processor? XDR’s Nano coating? Default SSD? 10Gigabit? Better sound and mic? A BETTER FACETIME CAMERA! Hah! This seems to Apple’s penultimate intel iMac if not Mac. Still a much better value then the iMac Pro and now probably pound for pound better. The specs and creature comforts are pretty darn amazing!

    oh wait, I did notice something. The base iMac Pro has been bumped up from 8 to 10 cores.

    https://www.apple.com/ph-k12/shop/buy-mac/imac-pro

     
    #6 Salaryman Ryan, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:36 AM
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    Unfortunately, the base 21 remains a terrible value as nothing but the storage have been upgraded. All the components are outdated. Still a dual core? Non-retina? Really? Yikes. Apple is essentially pulling a 2017 MacBook Air. Well at least the Air with its build in SSD is more usable out of the box.

    If I really really need a budget desktop Mac I would probably look for a used second hand 2015-2017 4K iMac. The current market price is around 50k for those. I would slap a cheap 256 ssd on that sucker for 2,500 pesos plus 1,000 installation free from my Mac repair shop suki in Greenhills and I’m good to go.
     
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    People who buy base units tend to want the cheapest solution possible. So they aren't picky.
     
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    It’s not like they are not picky, they are buying Apple so it means they are looking for a higher quality computer, it’s more like they are just uninformed. I know a couple of friends who bought Apple without proper research and regret it afterwards. For example, my twin cousins wanted to get a MacBook Air for their college.

    One went ahead and bought a 2017 Air for 50k at Powermac. The other consulted me so I directed her to the 2020 MacBook Air which she bought at the Apple Store PH for only 52k, only 2k more. When the first one found out she instantly regretted her purchase and wished she too got the 2020 Air.

    I agree with Salaryman, the 21.5 iMac is a bad bad deal. Apple should at least made it quad core and retina.
     
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    The base model is already a higher quality computer.

    It would not exist if there is no demand for it.

    Like the HDD-only models that were phased out this year as the 2019 models that had it probably sold poorly or the contract for HDD part was not renewed.

    As for PowerMac not disclosing it's a 2017 model... it's their fault and not Apple. To my knowledge Apple stopped selling the 2017 model when the 2020 model came out.

    Consumers will assume the display models are the latest models but then again if the buyer does not ask the right questions the seller does not have the opportunity to answer. My apologies for the weasel logic.

    Base model is a good deal if you're kuripot. If you aren't then you'd buy a 10th gen Intel CPU iMac. None of the 21.5" have 10th gen Intel CPU.

    So does that make the 21.5" line a bad buy? For a lot of people having the latest & greatest have little value to them. What they're after for is "anong pinakamura, ma'am/sir?"

    In that regard I hope Apple Silicon will allow Apple to offer sub-$1,000 Macs that have SATA-speed SSDs
     
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