2018 Mac mini

Discussion in 'Mac Mini' started by yoh_hectic, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. Salaryman Ryan

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    Agreed. The desktop class CPUs of the Minis will certainly be faster than the ones in the 2018 Macbook Pros. Plus don't forget the 2018 Macbook Pros tend to thermal throttle so it affects performance. The Mini on the other hand should have better cooling.

    Case to point. The older 2017 Quad Core 5k iMac in practice is still faster then a fully spec'ed out 6 core i9 2018 Macbook Pro because of throttling.

     
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    ^Hell yeah! - that's why I'm still an iMac guy. Having Mac laptops is just a plus, but I can actually live without having one.
     
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    2018 Mac mini vs Intel's NUC

    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3317562/computers/apple-mac-mini-vs-intel-nuc.html

    Apple Mac Mini vs Intel NUC: Which one’s better?
    For mini PC fans, curiosity about the new Mac Mini is natural. (Of the things mentioned during Apple’s event, that was the one thing I zeroed in on.)

    Comparing it with Intel’s Hades Canyon NUC is somewhat of an apples-to-oranges pairing, because the two systems have such different focuses. Apple is chasing professionals who do transcoding and other heavier workloads, while Intel had a laser focus on portable gaming. Which is better for you will obviously depend on what your needs are, and how much you’re willing to spend on them.

    However, putting them head-to-head does make one thing very clear: How slowly products get updated in the mini-PC space. For example, Zotac’s Magnus line could be a much closer natural rival for the Mac Mini, but it still sports a 7th-gen Intel processor.
     
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    Bang for buck... collated info from geekbench and everymac

    i3-8100 better in performance than all previous Mac Mini (should be right? unlike 2014)
    i7-8700 is 2x performance of i3-8100

    i3-8100 is 1.8-2.3x better than previous 2014 model
    i5-8500 is 2.6-3.4x better than previous 2014 model
    i7-8700 is 3.3-4.3x better than previous 2014 model

    "Dear Dan, 5x sounds better, please change the numbers on the presentation." - Phillip :D
     

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    im tempted to buy the mac mini... still deciding if im gonna get the new ipad or the mac mini... hehe
     
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    4K is actually fine even on older PCs. Trick is to not have to transcode anything with your Plex clients having the capability to play 4K natively.

    Only real issue is when watching with subtitles, i.e. Dragon Ball Super anyone? Subtitles cause Plex to automatically transcode. The old mini is capable of transcoding x264 but cant really cope when file is x265. This new format is smaller but requires new hardware and more CPU power to decode/encode.

    I'm guessing, any of the new ones will be capable as they have x265/HEVC built-in. But you'll need to get Plex pass to unlock hardware transcoding. Should make the mini work less and would be cooler.

    Jury is still out on memory or SSD upgradeability.

    But based on recent geekbench of the new Mini, the i7 flavor is i7-8700B, which is the soldered on (rather than socketed) version of the desktop CPU. It cant be upgraded.
     
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    2018 Mac Mini Core i7 6 cores Geekbench scoreboard

    1st place for single core and faster than the following
    • 2017 iMac Core i7
    • 2018 Macbook Pro Core i9
    • 2017 iMac Pro Xeon W
    6th place for single core and slower than the following
    • 2017 iMac Pro Xeon W 8-18 cores (4 different versions)
    • 2013 Mac Pro Xeon E5 12 cores
    http://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks
     
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    SSD is soldered, ram can be upgraded.
     
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    New company gives employees up to $3000 "Wellness Account" every January which could be used to purchase electronics and computers. Half of it will be salary-deducted without interest throughout the year.

    Given that I skipped on the 27" iMac 5K i'm planning before, I don't think I can do this time, as even before the 2018 Mac Mini was announced, I was already dreaming of this setup:

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    Mac Mini with 3.0 Ghz Core i5 - $1399cad
    Space Gray keyboard with keypad - $179cad
    Space Gray Magic Mouse 2 - $119cad
    LG Ultrafine 5K - $1699cad

    Total: $3566cad with tax

    Worth it you think?
     
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    Just found out the fan assembly is made in the philippines
     
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    i got na the new mac mini. space grey trackpad was sold out even the mouse :( had to settle for the silver ones
     
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    You could have ordered online from Apple Store PH! ;) but hey you saved a few thousand pesos. the space gray ones cost a bit more.
     
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    Coming from an iMac nightmare way back from 2011. the dust issue accumulating on the display and overheating, made me not want to go back to that machine. I love your setup! very clean, How was the display glare on your 5k monitor?

    Saw the benchmarks of that little guy, and it's beating the 2013 Mac Pro!
     
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    just wondering, is it possible to install windows 10 on my Mac mini but thru an external HD? as much I don't want to use windows on my Mac mini I really need it for some programs that we use for work. thanks in advance!
     
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    You could try installing windows 10 in VirtualBox, VMWare Fusion, or Parallels.
     
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    Like celebrities who are 1/256th Pinay, but trigger thousands to profess, "proud to be Pinoy"? ;)

    But then, there's nothing wrong with being a *fan*boy. :)
     
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    This made me think about Kelsey Merritt. Dang, she’s a beaut!

    Arrrnheo grad I’ve heard.:D
     
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    I got the Mac mini with 256gb of hd capacity which I think is still kinda low for my needs but due to time I was not able to BTO the one with a higher capacity so im thinking of plugging an external 3 TB hard disk which I plan to use with 1 partition for windows ( 500gb) and the other for my Mac files (2.5TB) . is this feasible?

    any leads on how to do this? never installed windows on any of my Mac so I'm kinda newbie to this part of the woods hehe

    THANKS MUCH!
     

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