2018 Mac mini

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  1. yoh_hectic

    yoh_hectic PhilMUG Addict Member

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    After more than 4 years the 2018 Mac mini has finally been updated.

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    Mac mini now offers faster and expanded I/O to allow it to connect to almost anything, including four Thunderbolt 3 ports, an HMDI 2.0, two USB-A ports, an audio jack and Gigabit Ethernet, as well as a 10Gb Ethernet option.



    Pricing and Availability
    Starting at $799, the new Mac mini is available to order today on apple.com. It will be available in Apple retail stores and through Apple Authorized Resellers starting Wednesday, November 7. Additional technical specifications, configure-to-order options and accessories are available online at apple.com/mac.
     
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    yoh_hectic PhilMUG Addict Member

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    There are two configurations that you can customize further

    3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor
    128 GB Storage

    ₱49,990.00

    3.0GHz 6-Core Processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.1GHz
    256 GB Storage

    ₱67,990.00

    I think the DD4 memory is user upgradeable but everything else is soldered on.

    Expect authorized resellers to offer a slight discount for these.
     
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  4. legato

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    Yesterday i was happy with my mac mini. Today, not so much. :)

    Seems to be desktop class and not laptop class no?
     
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    That is what I heard. Perhaps Intel's 8th Gen desktop chips are now cool enough to fit and be used inside a Mac mini?

    All of these are 14nm parts. By comparison Apple uses 10nm chips for the iPad Pro and iPhone

    Intel Core i3-8100 launched in Q4 2017

    Intel Core i5-8500 launched in Q2 2018

    Intel Core i7-8700 launched in Q4 2017

    I would have preferred they used Intel's 9th Gen desktop chips instead that all launched in Q4 2018

    3.6GHz 8-Core Core i9-9900K

    3.6GHz 8-Core Core i7-9700K

    3.7GHz 6-Core Core i5-9600K

    All those chips would support 128GB RAM
     
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    The new MBA has eGPU support. Will this one have too?
     
  7. legato

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    Should have eGPU support via Thunderbolt 3.

    Whoever priced the new 2018 Mac Mini is an (evil) genius hahaha!

    The i3 should be faster than most i7 laptops.

    Issue with the base model i3 is the 128GB SSD capacity, so you should at least get the i3 256GB model.

    But if you choose the i3 with 256GB SSD ($999), might as well add $100 more for the i5 which gets you 6 cores.

    Nothing wrong with the i5, it's just that for $200 more, you get 2x (!!!) the CPU capacity with 6 cores and Hyperthreading.
     

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    Mac Mini used to be the entry drug, it was purposely made cheap to entice the Windows users over to the MacOS side.

    I guess Apple is no longer applying that strategy.

    I'm glad my old 2014 MM is still chugging along fine. Just using it as a media player anyway.

    I have refused to upgrade the OS since I bought it, because I suspect if I do, it will mysteriously slow down to a crawl.
     
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    Back I/O

    2014 model

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    2018 model

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    Changes in the 2018 model

    * Option for 1 or 10 Gigabit Ethernet
    * Newer HDMI version
    * 4 port Thunderbolt 3 instead of 2 port Thunderbolt 2 ports
    * 2 port USB 3 instead of 4 port USB 3
    * No SDXC card slot
    * No separate Audio in

    For those curious why Apple didn't use USB Power Delivery (USB PD) for the Mac mini it has something to do with how much power it draws. USB PD has a max of 100W. The Mac mini's power is 150W.

    I find it curious that the 2018 Mac mini has the T2 chip while not putting Touch ID on the power button.
     
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    @legato , thanks for that pricing comparison. It gets much easier. :) question, will you see much difference between the i3 and i5? How about hyperthreading between the i3 and i5?
     
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    There is no Hyperthreading in i3 or i5. Only i7 for the 8th gen CPUs.

    For day to day use, i.e. browsing, word processing, excel, youtube, etc, I suspect you wont feel the difference between any of the models. The i3 will be faster than most i7 laptops.

    However if you do a lot of multi tasking or use software that makes use of multi-cores, i.e.
    • video editing, encoding
    • Plex
    • virtual machines
    • software development
    then more cores/threads would be better.

    iTunes will fill up your SSD with iOS backups if you only get the 128GB. The 1TB option is probably too much for most though.
    • One option would be to get the 512GB (or even 256GB) and instead purchase a NAS or external drive
    • Or save cash for an eGPU :)
    Amazing how many choices there are now.
     
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    Buy an external enclosure and you can plug in these SATA SSDs

    2.5" SATA Internal SSD

    $328.99 2TB Crucial MX500
    $287.93 2TB Micron 1100
    $154.99 1TB Crucial MX500
    $82.99 500GB Crucial MX500
    $52.99 250GB Crucial MX500

    M.2 SATA Internal SSD

    $154.99 1TB Crucial MX500
    $82.99 500GB Crucial MX500
    $52.99 250GB Crucial MX500
     
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    The Mac Mini is certainly not a value play it was once was but I'm just glad Apple finally refresh the Mini after what? 4 long years.

    But still i3 entry level and no discreet graphics? The iMac remains Apple's most bang for the buck Mac.
     
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    at the pricing, why do you buy it if you can get an almost same priced Macbook that you can carry with you with an lcd attached that you can use it as mac mini when closed
     
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    Mac mini has the following

    * Desktop processor
    * User upgradeable RAM to 64GB
    * LAN port
    * 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports
    * 2 USB 3 ports
    * HDMI port
    * Headphone port

    Macbook's good if you need a notebook. This is a desktop.
     
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    Well it's cheaper for the performance actually. If you already have the right components. @Salaryman Ryan made a great point regarding the iMac.

    Also don't need another screen or portability. When out and about, I just use an iPhone or iPad. For work I use a laptop provided by the company I work for. For home use, I need a big screen.

    It seems Apple made the Mac Mini desktop class rather than laptop class. Previous Mac Mini models were laptop class only.

    This means (or at least I hope) that the "lowly 2018 Mac Mini i3" at $799 will be comparable performance wise to the latest Macbook Pro i7 CPUs. Entry level Macbook Pro i7 is $1799.

    So waiting on the benchmarks and iFixit teardowns. Hoping for user upgradeable RAM (at least) and SSD (ideally).

    The 2018 Mac Mini i7 is calling me I think hahha. Need the 4k, HEVC encoding and Hyperthreading to run a few Virtual Machines for work.

    Looking at CPU benchmarks, i7 will be at 2013 Mac Pro territory.
     
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    What iMac models can compare to the new Mac mini i3 and i7 in terms of performance?
     
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    I'm pretty tempted to deprecate my desktop PC and MBP's for this. Planning to use it as a Plex Media Server for 4K videos.

    I wonder if I could just stick to the base processor and upgrade its storage (to 512GB; I will just use external storage devices to accommodate my current collection) and memory (32GB), or go the other way 'round and upgrade the processor instead?
     

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