Running X11 (Desktop Pic)

[rba]

Hey guys. I was just curious if there are any users out there who love using X11 in the Mac...or Linux/Unix users..blah blah...Just pm me if you want to disucuss some geek stuff on

Anyway, here's my setup of X11 running AfterStep windows manager. Mac OS X Darwin...arguably the best UNIX platform out there. hehe.

(Sorry couldn't find the right forum to post desktop pics)

[Mocha.Frap]

What's X11?

[Primo]

I agree Mac OS X is one of the best Unix platforms out there. Leopard one-ups Tiger though as it has Unix 03 certification.

While I do run some applications using X11, I find the OS X GUI to be a lot better though. I've always used Fluxbox on older Linux systems and just go with Gnome on faster ones.

It's ironic that you're using AfterStep on a Mac though, were you a NeXTStep programmer?

[rba]

What's X11?

It's a windowing system used by unix operating systems to provide gui for users. It uses a client-server model to create its windows.

Hmmm...come to think of it. I'm having a hard time explaining what it really is...in the simplest manner. lol

[rba]

I agree Mac OS X is one of the best Unix platforms out there. Leopard one-ups Tiger though as it has Unix 03 certification.

While I do run some applications using X11, I find the OS X GUI to be a lot better though. I've always used Fluxbox on older Linux systems and just go with Gnome on faster ones.

It's ironic that you're using AfterStep on a Mac though, were you a NeXTStep programmer?

Nope. But I do find programming under the X environment quite fascinating. Training as a C/C++ programmer. I usually do console apps but at the same time, studying gui programming for X.

I also decided to use fluxbox as my window manager. It's a LOT easier to modify than AfterStep. hehe.

I wanted to try programming gui on Mac OS X but Cocoa required me to learn Objective-C which I have a hard time understanding. And it's not as portable as using let's say Qt for programming your gui wherein you can easily port the C++ code to Windows and Linux boxes. Objective-C for me is exclusively for Mac OS X. I need something more portable and flexible at the same time with a strong veteran language as its foundation.

[Mocha.Frap]

It's a windowing system used by unix operating systems to provide gui for users. It uses a client-server model to create its windows.

Hmmm...come to think of it. I'm having a hard time explaining what it really is...in the simplest manner. lol

Uuhh..I still don't get t. I don't think I would be able to understand it either. so..nvm

[rba]

Uuhh..I still don't get t. I don't think I would be able to understand it either. so..nvm

lol. Do some research on it (Apple's page is the most logical place to start). You'll be surprised to find out how powerful Mac OS X is.

[Primo]

I'm a fairly old, yet relatively young programmer . I mostly worked on database applications development with multi-platform GUI deployment...

Apple's Mac OS X was derived from NeXTStep . AfterStep was an attempt to replicate the NeXTStep environment on Linux. I really like Fluxbox as well as I've mentioned, I never did like AfterStep...

QT's commercial license is prohibitive in cost . In terms of syntax and use, I like GTK better. I used and still use WXWidgets for GUI's, its open source and it's very good now.

You might want to give Objective-C a chance, it's not that far removed from C, I'm currently devoloping in it. You're correct though, that Objective-C is locked into Mac OS X... so in terms of portability it's a dead-end. But... OS X probably has the richest small developer market in the world... . You can also use the Python or Java bridge instead of Objective-C if you dislike Objective-C...

[rba]

I'm a fairly old, yet relatively young programmer . I mostly worked on database applications development with multi-platform GUI deployment...

Apple's Mac OS X was derived from NeXTStep . AfterStep was an attempt to replicate the NeXTStep environment on Linux. I really like Fluxbox as well as I've mentioned, I never did like AfterStep...

QT's commercial license is prohibitive in cost . In terms of syntax and use, I like GTK better. I used and still use WXWidgets for GUI's, its open source and it's very good now.

You might want to give Objective-C a chance, it's not that far removed from C, I'm currently devoloping in it. You're correct though, that Objective-C is locked into Mac OS X... so in terms of portability it's a dead-end. But... OS X probably has the richest small developer market in the world... . You can also use the Python or Java bridge instead of Objective-C if you dislike Objective-C...

Wow...an Objective-C programmer? Are you sure you're from the Philippines?:P haha. Never knew anyone who programmed in that language.

I was willing to try wxWidgets but I can't seem to compile an X11 version on it with my Powerbook. I have this bias against using software that's locked on to Mac (which is the same reason I try to stay away from Objective-C) so I always find the "X" version and port it since I consider my box to be more Darwin than OS X. I only use OS X for school work (Word documents, video/slideshow presentations). But for the more serious, technical (geeky if you will) side, I switch on to the X environment. Command line all the way. And because of that, I'm trying to figure out how to port certain code distributed by friends (who use Linux/Unix systems) by myself to Darwin instead of having to rely on Fink or MacPorts.

...ANYWAY...haha

I may give give Objective-C a chance but for now, it's C/C++ for me. I can't seem to get GTK+ open source version to work either. I have yet to develop commercial applications (heck...I'm still a student. lol) so I'm happy with being able to program with Qt/X11 and distribute it to my friends.

[no_read_no_write]

wow all good programers here.... am not to programing however into testing diffrent os...

maybe any good programers here can tell why linux doesn't make a "good" installer that fits on a pentium2? (gui based)

cauz experienced windows xp running "well" on a p2 complete with microsoft office... have tried lots of linux but all runs too sluggish... u know what i mean