If you have a 5G iPod or a 4G iPod photo and want to output your video/pics to a TV, you don't need to shell out US$19.00 for Apple's proprietary iPod AV connector when ordinary connectors will do! Here's how (original from this (http://tinyurl.com/98uac) link):

1) Buy a standard camcorder cable from your local hardware store (with a 3-plug yellow, red and white RCA jack set on one end and a 3.5 mm plug on the other). This shouldn't cost more than P100. It looks like this:
http://www.macdevcenter.com/mac/2005/11/18/graphics/figure1.gif

2) Plug in the 3.5 mm plug into the iPod's headphone jack.

3) Now do the following:
- Plug in the red RCA plug into the TV's yellow RCA jack.
- Plug in the yellow RCA plug into the TV's white RCA jack.
- Plug in the white RCA plug into the TV's red RCA jack.
http://www.macdevcenter.com/mac/2005/11/18/graphics/figure3a.gif
http://www.macdevcenter.com/mac/2005/11/18/graphics/figure3b.gif

4) Set up your iPod to output to TV Out. You're good to go! :D

yeah hehehhe i wan reading a while ago all those commnet on Apple Store Online... and most of them says that generic A/V cable works fine with the new video iPod

[Edited on 11.21.05 by artagnan5]

slightly OT: i was able to stream music from my ibook to my microcomponents via the airport express using a cheap stereo cable worth only 135 bucks. this is in contrast to the monster stereo cable kits sold for around 4k i think. i had it customized to my desired length which was 10m long, considering the distance of the APE and the stereo set. waited for it for about 20min lang. thanks to the helpful salesperson at ACE hardware. saved me a lot of cash. :cheers:

whew thats a relief then.... and a whole lot of savings too :cheers: thanks for the tip

can this be found at local hardware stores? like ACe or handyman? just double checking :D

Originally posted by zagu
can this be found at local hardware stores? like ACe or handyman? just double checking :D

I daw them selling this at audio/video stalls at GreenHills..the same stalls that sell Karaokes. :D

wow galing! just asked how much this cable was at microwarehouse, what a relief!

Originally posted by zagu
can this be found at local hardware stores? like ACe or handyman? just double checking :D

A good place to check is Electronics Boutique - they have branches in Park Square I, Alabang Town Center & Market Market mall. They have cables galore.

Well, it is still hard to find a 3 plug phono plug to RCA cable these days. . But luckily, a Taiwanese manufacturer (I think) has some available to mass consumers. These things used to sell like around 500 bucks circa 2002. But because I usually go to ACE Hardware, Handyman and other mall hardware stores, Ive come across these cables that sell for as little as 200 bucks I think.

good thing my portable multi-player came with one of those mini-jack to 3RCA! thanks for the heads-up :cheers:

btw, i think i DIY (gateway) has 'em. :qmark: although i'm not entirely sure... i think i'll drop by gateway later just to make sure.

I bought one of these ordinary audio cable (3.5mm ot RCA) to connect my iPod to the stereo from True Value and I got some static when I used it at home. I went back to have it replaced and the replacement produced the same static. I found out that the fit of 3.5mm jack to the ipod is loose. Went back to True Value to return.

Moral lesson: Bring your ipod to the hardware store and test what you are buying before paying and leaving the store.

[Edited on 11-22-2005 by topaz]

3) Now do the following:
- Plug in the red RCA plug into the TV's yellow RCA jack.
- Plug in the yellow RCA plug into the TV's white RCA jack.
- Plug in the white RCA plug into the TV's red RCA jack

May I ask why the need to invert the stereo and video plugs? Is this due to some proprietary configuration at the Ipod's 3.5 female out? Thanks.

Originally posted by marty_e
3) Now do the following:
- Plug in the red RCA plug into the TV's yellow RCA jack.
- Plug in the yellow RCA plug into the TV's white RCA jack.
- Plug in the white RCA plug into the TV's red RCA jack

May I ask why the need to invert the stereo and video plugs? Is this due to some proprietary configuration at the Ipod's 3.5 female out? Thanks.

Correct! It's basically to deter casual tinkerers to use generic cables, to convince them to instead buy the iPod's proprietary US$19 connector. I was surprised though at how simple it was to convert a generic cord for use with the iPod. :)

isn't that a bit "twisted" of apple? excuse the pun, i can't help it :D

i mean, releasing supposedly proprietary ipod accessories with the obvious intent of totally misleading consumers (read: different jack colors) that generic cables will not work, is just unnecessary.

btw, plated (preferably gold) connectors reduce (if not, eliminate) output noise and static... although, these gold-plated connectors are a bit pricey.

Originally posted by nelman

btw, plated (preferably gold) connectors reduce (if not, eliminate) output noise and static... although, these gold-plated connectors are a bit pricey.

Yeah, my suggestion is you buy the gold plated ones since they produce good quality audio & video.
another good thing is that they do not easily corrode... so no static is produced.
You wouldn't want a corroded stereo jack be inserted on your ipod,would you?

Originally posted by bhengko
Originally posted by nelman

btw, plated (preferably gold) connectors reduce (if not, eliminate) output noise and static... although, these gold-plated connectors are a bit pricey.

Yeah, my suggestion is you buy the gold plated ones since they produce good quality audio & video.
another good thing is that they do not easily corrode... so no static is produced.
You wouldn't want a corroded stereo jack be inserted on your ipod,would you?

Actually, Gold plated interconnects dont really have the ability to produce a more sonically transparent sound. Its used because (and you are right about this) they dont corrode easily. Which gives you solid connections on your cables and systems components.

what a very useful tip! good on you:cheers:

The connectors of my iPod av cable are not gold plated..is that okay? :qmark:

Originally posted by xthine
The connectors of my iPod av cable are not gold plated..is that okay? :qmark:

Shouldn't be a problem, given that the iPod's video output is really optimize for the iPod's small screen, TV output will yield VHS quality at best - not bad, but not tack-sharp under the best of circumstances. I doubt that you will see a very big difference in output quality when using non-gold plated connectors, just so long as the connectors themselves are free from corrosion.

Bon,

Thanks for the tip! Husay!

Interested lang ako malaman, paano mo na-discover yung mix and matching ng cables? :cheers:

Originally posted by Cesar
Bon,

Thanks for the tip! Husay!

Interested lang ako malaman, paano mo na-discover yung mix and matching ng cables? :cheers:

Haha! You're welcome. I can't claim credit for discovering this myself - I just reposted this info that I found from someone else's blog (link to the original article is on my first post in this thread). :D

wow! i didn't know this!
maka-bili nga sa raon!
kung sa fry's baka gumastos ako ng $10. :laugh:

Originally posted by nelman
isn't that a bit "twisted" of apple? excuse the pun, i can't help it :D

i mean, releasing supposedly proprietary ipod accessories with the obvious intent of totally misleading consumers (read: different jack colors) that generic cables will not work, is just unnecessary.


Its actually not the first time. Back when Apple introduced the iBook Clamshell AV, if you didn't know better, you had to buy the Apple AV cable to connect it to a projector.

Hmmm... I wonder if this'll work normally with an iPod.

[Edited on 11-23-2005 by Kenneth]

help, i bought the prescribed type of av/rca cable somewhere in Cubao. here's the thing. it looks exactly like the one pictured in this thread, except it was exceptionally cheap - P50. now, i followed everything from the instructions, and all that was produced was a very garbled picture and just static sound. i tried putting both the yellow and red plugs in the video (yellow) socket of the TV, and it yielded the same garbled picture - giving me the impression that the video is not channelled properly to one cable (otherwise, video should come out in only one plug right?).

i tried this in 2 tv's - one quite old and one that was bought just this year - tried it in both PAL and NTSC, to no avail.

from all indications, it would appear like i bought an inferior product. of course, i would like your inputs before i make any next steps.

Look at topaz's post above. It could be the cause.

I got mine from RGY Enterprises in Anapolis mall (in front of Virramall). I can't remember how much I got it, but it definitely cost more than P100

[Edited on 12-1-2005 by Kenneth]

Originally posted by bughaw
help, i bought the prescribed type of av/rca cable somewhere in Cubao. here's the thing. it looks exactly like the one pictured in this thread, except it was exceptionally cheap - P50. now, i followed everything from the instructions, and all that was produced was a very garbled picture and just static sound. i tried putting both the yellow and red plugs in the video (yellow) socket of the TV, and it yielded the same garbled picture - giving me the impression that the video is not channelled properly to one cable (otherwise, video should come out in only one plug right?).

i tried this in 2 tv's - one quite old and one that was bought just this year - tried it in both PAL and NTSC, to no avail.

from all indications, it would appear like i bought an inferior product. of course, i would like your inputs before i make any next steps.

Probably because its the cheapo type. There are good quality cheap cables around that come in blister packs. Try looking for it at ACE Hardware or Handyman. There are really bad China made cables out there, thats why you should stay away from those types.

i tired looking at ACE and truevalues but they dont have it said the sales rep

Theres this hardware store in Sta. lucia East grandmall. Try there.

This is the exact product that I bought in Ace Hardware SM Southmall for P94.75. It's about the same price in Electronics Boutique (branches at Park Square 1, Market Market, and Alabang Town Center). I suggest that you look for it yourself and not rely on the sales clerks because many of them don't know exactly what this product does (this was the case with me at Ace Hardware).

Brand: D & S Accessories
D&S Part No. : DS2246
OEM Part No : A5016-00-N1.5M
Description :
Video Cable for Digital Camcorder 3.5mm Plug(4 poles)-3RCA Plugs Φ2.7*3
Category : Video Cable
Length : 1.5M

http://home.tradeeasy.com/dnsindustries/img/ds2246m.gif
http://www.dnsindustries.com/shopimages/13320/mmobj/graphicsDs2246M.jpg

where is it located(the product) is it under the lane of AV cables?

forgive me for my ignorance guys but is the av/rca cable different from the cable that I should use when I want to connect my ipod to a stereo? what type of cable will I need? Thanks. This thread is super helpful. Hats off to all you guys. :-)

Originally posted by armel
forgive me for my ignorance guys but is the av/rca cable different from the cable that I should use when I want to connect my ipod to a stereo? what type of cable will I need? Thanks. This thread is super helpful. Hats off to all you guys. :-)

Yes, it's different. This cable is normally used to connect camcorders to a TV, and it has 3 RCA jack outputs - one for video, and two for left & right audio. It uses a 4-pole 3.5 mm jack (.e., has 3 black rings on the end of the headphone jack) The one used to connect an iPod to a stereo has a 3-pole 3.5 mm jack (2 black rings) and only has 2 RCA jack outputs for audio.

Originally posted by bon
Originally posted by armel
forgive me for my ignorance guys but is the av/rca cable different from the cable that I should use when I want to connect my ipod to a stereo? what type of cable will I need? Thanks. This thread is super helpful. Hats off to all you guys. :-)

Yes, it's different. This cable is normally used to connect camcorders to a TV, and it has 3 RCA jack outputs - one for video, and two for left & right audio. It uses a 4-pole 3.5 mm jack (.e., has 3 black rings on the end of the headphone jack) The one used to connect an iPod to a stereo has a 3-pole 3.5 mm jack (2 black rings) and only has 2 RCA jack outputs for audio.

what do you call that cable? audio cable? :-) Salamat ah. :-)

It's called a camcorder A/V cable.

Originally posted by zagu
where is it located(the product) is it under the lane of AV cables?

In Ace Hardware, the audio and video cables are in the same location. Same with Electronics Boutique.

Originally posted by bon
It's called a camcorder A/V cable.

You're referring to the cable for the TV out right? how about the cable for stereo out? What's it called?

The standard camcorder A/V cable has 3 outputs:
1. yellow RCA jack - video out (to TV)
2. white RCA jack - left audio out (to TV or stereo)
3. red RCA jack - right audio out (to TV or stereo)

Therefore, the camcorder A/V cable has BOTH video and audio outputs bundled together. You just need to interchange the jacks to work properly with the video iPod as I described earlier.

Originally posted by bon
This is the exact product that I bought in Ace Hardware SM Southmall for P94.75. It's about the same price in Electronics Boutique (branches at Park Square 1, Market Market, and Alabang Town Center). I suggest that you look for it yourself and not rely on the sales clerks because many of them don't know exactly what this product does (this was the case with me at Ace Hardware).

Brand: D & S Accessories
D&S Part No. : DS2246
OEM Part No : A5016-00-N1.5M
Description :
Video Cable for Digital Camcorder 3.5mm Plug(4 poles)-3RCA Plugs Φ2.7*3
Category : Video Cable
Length : 1.5M

http://home.tradeeasy.com/dnsindustries/img/ds2246m.gif
http://www.dnsindustries.com/shopimages/13320/mmobj/graphicsDs2246M.jpg

I went to ACE hardware just this lunch and I couldn't find this. I asked the staff and she said they don't have that for some reason. Here's the sneaky part. She asked me to go to the Apple Center on the second floor. Fishy. hahahaha I'll try Electronics Boutique in Park Square 1 later. :-)

oh crap. i bought mine in ambassador appliance in shang for P 350!

also what's weird is, the video cable is the red one. ganon daw pagkagawa... haha!

oh well, beats apple's P 1,800 a/v cable... :-p

Originally posted by rogue
oh crap. i bought mine in ambassador appliance in shang for P 350!

also what's weird is, the video cable is the red one. ganon daw pagkagawa... haha!



That's the same thing with the D & S Cable that I bought (see first post in thread describing how to correctly plug in generic cables to a TV for iPod video use). Remember that these generic A/V cables are supposed to work with most camcorders and thus it's the standard - it's the Apple-branded P1,800 A/V cable that didn't follow the standard.

Not all "Generic" A/V cables are the same. This type of cable is commonly used in camcorders and protable VCD/DVD players and not all of them have the same specifications. So those "Generic" cables may have been copied from one of several designs. The best way to be sure a cable will work is to use a multitester to check the wiring of a cable. Someone posted the following schematic of the ipod AV cable:

HERE (http://static.flickr.com/32/58420576_89d4e11534_o.jpg)

I bought a cable from Electronics Botique a few months back and modified it following the diagram with success. If you are lucky you just have to swap the plugs around as posted on MacDevCenter, if noty you will have to cut the cable and re-wire.:yes:

Originally posted by empty
Not all "Generic" A/V cables are the same. This type of cable is commonly used in camcorders and protable VCD/DVD players and not all of them have the same specifications. So those "Generic" cables may have been copied from one of several designs.

When in doubt, try to look for the "D&S" branded A/V cable whose pic I posted herein. I bought 2 of these and they work perfectly with the video iPod (after swapping around the RCA jacks).

How's the picture quality on the screen?

About VCD quality.

One thing I thought about. The iPod Video is able to play even hi-res/high datarate videos, I tried playing a 1.5mbps video and it played it with no problem. Playing these kinds of videos requires some pretty significant cpu power. Which leads me to believe that the only way its able to do this is if the codec decompressor is actually built in the hardware rather than firmware/software. Which makes me even more skeptical that a hack for it to be able to play other video formats like divx will be possible.

Yup! The 5G has a Broadcom video decoder. You can see pictures here: http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1338

i have a 4g ipod, do i use the same recommended (read: cheap) a/v cable to play audio in my stereo? and, sorry but im not so good with these stuff, but to stream music to my stereo from my ibook, can i use this cable as well?

Hi, I want to be able to connect my iPod to and play on a stereo or audio component/cd-cassette player in our dance studio. Will the Apple Ipod AV cable do that?

If yes, where can I buy one 'coz I've been looking at Apple stores and even asked Ynzals but what they have is the whole AV connection kit (with a bunch of peripherals which I don't really need).

Hope you can help, thanks!! :D

use the search function. this has been discussed before.

replacement is around 800pesos only

Special promotion: P299 for the IPOD AV Cable..

Does this also work for connecting ipod video to a TV, so one can view videos or pics on a tv? Sorry, i dunno about his stuff eh. If yes, sir longbeard, i'd like to order po. Where can we contact you?

Just get a copy of the August Mobile Philippines (mph) and go to page 26 for a nice how-to article by Chairman on how to make a low cost solution. It's simpler (and cheaper) than you think.

Just get a copy of the August Mobile Philippines (mph) and go to page 26 for a nice how-to article by Chairman on how to make a low cost solution. It's simpler (and cheaper) than you think. any chance of finding that article online? :D

istudio vmall . i saw a lot

any chance of finding that article online? :D

I believe it was discussed here first in PhilMug...here (http://www.philmug.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=10152&highlight=cable) is the thread.

I'm using a generic one, the gold plated connector.

Yey, im on my way to ACE now. Best tip of the week :cool:. TY

Got one na hahaha :D

Don't go to ACE Hardware and TruValue in Glorietta, out of stock sila. I was able to find one sa Park Square One. The store in front of Odyssey(?) records / Compex. ;)

Be sure to set to NTSC. And I had to fiddle with the physical connection to the ipod Video. Just twist and turn until you get a signal, but you should :)

YAY!

Kind of "block"-y nga, (if you chose Optimize for iPod using iSquint) but otherwise, pwede na. Katuwaan lang naman di ba? hehehe!

THanks to this thread. Just read it last night, went to SM Davao Ace Hardware and tried the tips... galeng! We're now watching the my ipod videos on TV. cool.

thanks thanks thanks!

do this work with the new ipod touch? i was able to get it work with the ipod video, but not with the touch :(

do this work with the new ipod touch? i was able to get it work with the ipod video, but not with the touch :(

The video connection is with the dock pin and not the headphone jack anymore. Same goes with the latest iPod Classic and 3rd Gen Nano.

I can't use mine(bought from ace) on my 30GB iPod 5G

do this work with the new ipod touch? i was able to get it work with the ipod video, but not with the touch :(

nope. not in this lifetime... i found out the hard way. bought one and i couldn't get it to work. now the store at greenhills said they can only give me store credit or can only exchange for an item. no refunds whatsoever. i had to ask my sis to get one for me from the US and its coming tomorrow.

thanks for the tips. although the thread is old.. will try to find one at home if not i would go out and buy. at last my 5g ipod would be more useful than ever.

The video connection is with the dock pin and not the headphone jack anymore. Same goes with the latest iPod Classic and 3rd Gen Nano.

A workaround is to use the line out in the iPod Universal Dock (the old one w S-Video out and bundled remote), and to plug in the generic AV cable following the tip in the original post (i.e., red to yellow, etc.).

I tried this with my iPod Classic and it worked, i haven't personally tried 3g nano and the iPod touch, though. Also I'm not sure if this tip will also work for the new Apple Universal Dock with bundled remote.

has anyone tried using an iphone with an apple universal dock? I tried it and there was an error saying that the dock is not compatible with the device. I don't know if there is a workaround for this or if I should install something
can anyone suggest something?

ack. I should have read this thread before I bought my generic cable...which didn't work by the way....guess I'll have to look for the D&S brand...good thing the cable i bought was only 100 bucks...hehe.

I answered this in the other thread as well.

This trick won't work with the iPods released since Sept 2007. You need a newer cable released since then or use an accessory with an authentication chip (e.g. Universal Dock (iPhone won't work with that btw))

ilounge.com - apple-locks-tv-out-in-new-ipods-breaks-video-add-ons (http://ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/apple-locks-tv-out-in-new-ipods-breaks-video-add-ons/)

found the D&S brand of cable in SM...Ace Hardware...
too bad they didn't have the short cable...had to get the long cable version. but works like a charm. first try and it was a success. :)

@koppee1

chief u used it with what? classic? itouch?

with a 5.5 gen ipod video :)

Unfortunately this generic cable hack won't work with any of the new iPods - Classic, 3rd gen Nano, or Touch. The new iPods don't have any video out capability via the headphone jack. Video Out will only work with official Apple accessories, and only via the dock connector.

Unfortunately this generic cable hack won't work with any of the new iPods - Classic, 3rd gen Nano, or Touch. The new iPods don't have any video out capability via the headphone jack. Video Out will only work with official Apple accessories, and only via the dock connector.

Any updates here bout our iPod classic? Owww men, this really sucks... I'm still patienly waiting but it seems I'm really losing hope...

Any updates here bout our iPod classic? Owww men, this really sucks... I'm still patienly waiting but it seems I'm really losing hope...

me too waiting for the generic (el cheapo) video cable for ipod classic:confused:

I was wondering why sendstation dint' come up with a all in one Audio and Video cable for Ipod Classics its been a year already since Classics around in the market.

I already check their web site still the old 3 in one cable which only supports the 5.5 gen of ipods.

That's too slow for an update.

I hope that they will have it before the holiday season comes cant wait for it cause I want to see my newly downloaded HD TV shows in my wide screen TV.

AFAIK the only video cables that work with the Classic, Nano, Touch and iPhone are the official Apple-branded Composite A/V Cable set (with USB adapter) and the Apple-branded Component A/V Cable set (for TVs with component video in). The newer iPods don't have any circuitry in the headphone jack to allow you to use the generic cables that used to work with the older video and photo iPods. I've also heard that there is a lockout chip on official Apple video out accessories that prevents non-Apple products to use the video out capability of the newer iPod models through the dock connector. Don't hold your breath for a non-Apple version. This is also the reason that Sendstation's A/V cable isn't compatible with video playback of any iPod apart from the old 5G full sized version.

(pardon if this is a stupid question but...)

What's the difference between the Composite A/V & Component A/V cables?

Apple Composite A/V Cable (suitable for standard definition TVs with composite video RCA jacks - yellow for composite video signal, white for left audio and red for right audio):
http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/8551/8551097_sa.jpg

Apple Component Video Cable splits the video signal into three components, each with its own cable. The first is the "Y" luminance signal, which indicates brightness or black & white information that is contained in the original RGB signal. The second ("B-Y") and third ("R-Y") signals are "color difference" signals which indicate how much blue and red there is relative to luminance. More bandwidth is available for the video signal with component video, resulting in a much better picture if you have a TV that supports component in - nearly all HD televisions support it. The two RCA jacks for audio are the same as for the composite video cable:
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg_images/343/207910343.jpg

Oh, great! Thanks for your answer.

It's good to finally KNOW the difference. :D

You'll find cheap china made iPod Dock Composite A/V Cables at V-mall that can be had for P 600. But buy at your own risk.

Digital Walker and iStudio sells a 3rd party iPod Component Cable made by Capdase which is half the price of Apple's. So I guess in reference to Bon's post above, there is no lockout chip.

how about ipod classic 6g?

Generic cables won't work with any iPod made after the 5.5 Generation Release of iPod made in September 2006.

if you connect a generic cable to the iphone dock, will it work?

with both audio and video?

if you connect a generic cable to the iphone dock, will it work?

with both audio and video?


If your ipod is the 5.5 generation yes but if its was the classic it will won't work because of the code chip from the connector.

Only apple branded AV cables and I think capdase AV cables brands will work on new models of Ipod Classics.;)

I just read this thread and very very useful, now I can make my 5.5 iPod Video a part of my entertainment system.

I just have a question though, I wanna buy the universal dock which is currently available now, so that I can watch using a remote but will this setup work?

guys, I just purchased an apple universal dock, the one without the S Video Out, the video is working on my tv if I connect the generic RCA cable thru the headphone jack but only sound if I use the line out of the dock.

If I will buy the Apple Composite AV cable, will it work now if I use the line out port of the dock and not the headphone jack of the iPod?

Anyway, i have the 5.5gen iPod video 30gig.

Very OC here and I want the cable to be connected at the back of the dock and hidden and not sticking out on the iPod's headphone jack, thats the only reason I bought the dock and still, it beats its purpose.

Thanks.

its just about you seeing your ipod connected to the tv with white cables with an apple as a logo. its very much the same with the generic cable.

Yahoo!!! I just tried connecting my iTouch to our trusty old Revo vx200's aux using a generic cable and it worked... No need for audio cd's.

guys, I just purchased an apple universal dock, the one without the S Video Out, the video is working on my tv if I connect the generic RCA cable thru the headphone jack but only sound if I use the line out of the dock.

If I will buy the Apple Composite AV cable, will it work now if I use the line out port of the dock and not the headphone jack of the iPod?

Anyway, i have the 5.5gen iPod video 30gig.

Very OC here and I want the cable to be connected at the back of the dock and hidden and not sticking out on the iPod's headphone jack, thats the only reason I bought the dock and still, it beats its purpose.

Thanks.

Did you switch around the red, white and yellow jacks of the generic cable just as what is described in the very first post of this thread? That's the only real difference between the iPod A/V cable (the type that plugs into the headphone jack, not the newer dock connector model that comes with a USB adapter) and the generic A/V cable.

@bon

yeah, I did switch around the jack. The video will come out if its connected thru the headphone jack of the ipod but if I'll connect it thru the line out of the universal dock, only sound is coming out. I guess the lineout of the "new" universal dock don't have the capacity of video out aswell and just uses the dock connector to video just like the newer ipods.

I should have bought the "older" iPod docks but the thing is the older dock dont have adapters for the newer iPods.